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What Expert Authority World™ is saying about the show:
- Enthusiasm and experienceJanuary 10, 2023 by Cfow110 from United States
Mario is an enthusiastic experienced interviewer. He creates conversations with great content but also leaves room for some whimsy with his imperfect action round questions.
- What an Enjoyable Show!December 21, 2022 by BretRidgway from United States
Mario Frachini is the consummate pro when it comes to being a podcast host. The time just flew by and the conversation was great!
- Great Show!July 22, 2022 by erseburse from United States
Always providing great content- keep it up!
- Insightful, inspiring and empowering!!May 6, 2022 by Anya Bartholomew from United States
This is a gem!! You've got to pay attention to "little" things to appreciation the power of this incredible useful information!! The more you listen, the more you love it! Try and you'll see!!
- Love love loveMay 6, 2022 by Tanyamariedube from Canada
What a great show. I loved listening to your episode with Dave Lorenzo on the 60 Second Sale. As someone who loves sales (but loathed them when I started with cold calls and cold door knocking), I loved what he said about hearing the word “no”. In sales, we are trained to look for the no’s. It makes us really good at it if we can really get into it. What you two were talking about with regard to how our limitations are i’’our minds really resonated with me. I love that because it’s a game changer when you understand that sales is just about helping people solve a massive problem and getting paid for it and then taking imperfect action, get on your feet and have fun. Thanks so much! Love this show.
- Amazing podcast!January 24, 2022 by maddie@podcastingyou from United States
This podcast is incredibly informative and empowering! Each episode is an insightful deep dive into an entrepreneurial story that highlights tenacity, innovation, and advice to help you level up in your own journey.
- INSIGHTFUL!January 18, 2022 by Mitko I. from Bulgaria
A ton of value, keep rocking!
- Great show!January 7, 2022 by Gisele_Oliveira from United States
I love this show. The host is really entertaining and the content is pure gold. This podcast became my top show. Keep up the great work, Mario!
- Insightful and wide rangingJanuary 7, 2022 by purpletom111 from United Kingdom
This is an excellent podcast for anyone looking to optimise their business. Mario is a fabulous host with brilliant questions and a relaxed, friendly demeanour. I loved Episode 261 about Growth Marketing, really useful - high product quality is the best marketing strategy out there!
- Brilliant insights from the best…December 27, 2021 by jxywvut from United States
No matter what big business mountain you are trying to summit, the EA podcast has something amazing to inspire and teach you how to start or scale your venture. I love tuning in every day to learn actionable insights from a new expert or industry. So much value to sink your teeth into. Give it a listen!
- Top Notch Quality Content for Authentic LeadersDecember 1, 2021 by dropinceo from United States
A meticulous production, a highly professional host with authentic conversation creates an amazing experience for the listener. A must listen for insights and inspiration for the Entreprener or C-Suite Leader.
- Love it!November 30, 2021 by Mariann!! from United States
It’s definitely worth your time if you are trying to stay informed.
- Actionable and InspiringOctober 29, 2021 by Ben_Cook28 from United States
I appreciate the authenticity, quality of the guests, and insights from this podcast
- Essential content for your entrepreneurial journeyOctober 17, 2021 by MCarmen Baldovi from United Kingdom
Mario’s interviews are full of valuable tips from business experts that you shouldn’t miss in your entrepreneurial journey. Listening to this podcast is being a massive help for me and I hope it is for you.
- Wealth of InformationOctober 8, 2021 by KPM D. from United States
Great interviews. Always great to have the opportunity to hear from experts in their fields and glean from their years of wisdom. Keep up the good work!
- Packed with actionable content!October 8, 2021 by mwforrester from United States
Mario has a top-notch podcast with outstanding guests! I’m able to come away with information that I can apply to my own business, to generate growth and increase my ability to provide positive impact. When you spend your time to listen to an episode of EA Effect you can be sure that you will get an amazing return on time investment.
- Powerful!September 3, 2021 by MichaelUnbroken from United States
This is the show I needed 13 years ago before I ruined my first business. I think being able to have tangible and practical insight from people who are one step ahead of you is everything congrats to Mario for an amazing show! - @MichaelUnbroken
- First Rate Host and Brilliant GuestsSeptember 3, 2021 by Wade Galt from United States
Mario is an extremely well prepared and professional host that gets the best out of his guests. He interviews fundamentally sound guests to share powerful business strategies and wisdom. Definitely worth your time to listen.
- Great show.August 28, 2021 by mdaciuk from Canada
Excellent interviews and guests. Liked the show on how to defend your reputation. “Customers, communities and critics.” Good way at looking at stakeholders. Thanks for the great content.
- Great topics - and tips!August 27, 2021 by Kate | EOFire from United States
Loving Mario’s podcast! Not only does he hit so many great topics, but his episodes are filled with tips and strategies you can actually use right now. For example, I just listened to his episode about Podmatch with Alex SanFilippo, and Mario doesn’t just read off a list of questions and move through the interview robotically - he actually has a conversation, and shares his own experiences with the power of guest podcasting and why others should be doing this to grow their own audience. Thank you, Mario! Keep up the heat!
- So glad I found this podcast!August 13, 2021 by Nate804 from United States
I’m so excited to continue jumping into episodes of this podcast. So much knowledge from so many successful business men & women. Adding this to my weekly workflow for sure!
- So much informationJuly 23, 2021 by abal31 from United States
Such a great show. So much information and helps with many areas of our business.
- 0285: Sales Driven Agency: Helping Founders Become Predictable, Sustainable and ScalableJune 28, 2021 by Mary2577 from Philippines
Thank you so much and keep on doing more great show.
- Easily One of My FavoritesMay 7, 2021 by ScottDGray from United States
I recently discovered Expert Authority Effect. It’s quickly worked it’s way onto my list of must listen podcasts. The episodes are less than an hour and packed with great information from top-level entrepreneurs.
- Priceless Content!May 7, 2021 by megan@podcastingyou from United States
Mario does such a good job covering a variety of topics. His guests offer awesome advice as well. I would recommend this show to anyone looking to learn more about entrepreneurship!
- Very helpfulMay 7, 2021 by Luke and Susie from Australia
As a business owner I love being challenged to see things a different way and be reminded of how to do thing better. This podcast has been so helpful to do that.
- Great ShowMay 6, 2021 by emj-js from United States
Mario does an excellent job being fun an entertaining while asking insightful questions to draw out the experise of his guests. Thoughtful, helpful conversations to make work and life better. Thanks!
- Smart Ways to GiftApril 26, 2021 by Michelle Kaplan from United States
I learned some key things during Mario's interview with Chelsea Martin on gifting. What stands out is how impactful direct mail really is and how important a customized presentation of your products not only creates happy customers, but also a great referral source. Thank you!
- Heart Centered SuccessApril 18, 2021 by Macnjacs from United States
Your interview with Brandon Fong was great. I appreciated the fact you started with the 3 steps, it was so valuable it really made me want to hear more. Thanks!
- Love this show!March 12, 2021 by Gisele_Oliveira from United States
This is so far my favorite podcast. It’s been my weekly dose of motivation and inspiration. Keep up the great work, Mario !
- So much value!March 7, 2021 by Loose Seeds from United States
The conversation with James, Sana and John Lee Dumas was awesome. Unique questions were asked by the hosts and JLD responded with gems that I stick right into my pocket. Thanks for this valuable info on how to up my podcasting game guys!
- Always Enjoy Mario's Interviews!March 5, 2021 by HarloB from United States
I really enjoy Mario and his shows. The Stress and Anger in the Workplace episode was great because it cut to the chase of all the issues around this topic. Great interview!
- Great PodcastMarch 5, 2021 by 11Dreamer11 from United States
Really interesting interviews that are really well done! Great listen and great for inspiration.
- InnovativeFebruary 22, 2021 by Michelle Kaplan from United States
I love Mario's energy! It captures my attention throughout his podcasts. Listenng to him and his guests, their ideas, actions, and accomplishments makes me brainstorm what's next for my business. Relevant and fresh!
- Inspiriation 7 Days A Week!February 19, 2021 by ST Rappaport | LifePix from United States
Mario doesn't miss a day. No matter what is going on, there's an episode relase. Mario is on a mission and nothing is going to stop him. He's a real model to be doing these interviews!
- An Expert on Experts!February 12, 2021 by Powerful Eric from United States
Love this show! Mario's show is a asset to podcasting. Thanks for helping others Mario!
- Now I knowJanuary 22, 2021 by Margo Lovett from United States
Mario, I see how active and generous you are in Podcast Paradise. Today, I listened to a few of your shows - episodes 1 & 59. Episode 1 brought me into the moment of prayer. You produced a show according to the Spirit. Now I know why you are so generous, able to operate from your seat of genius. Margo Lovett
- Keeping the BooksJanuary 15, 2021 by E-World from United States
Great interview with Judith keeping Net Profits as key thing to look at. Interesting point she made some owners make 30 millions but not enough Net to take a paycheck.
- Excellent podcastJanuary 12, 2021 by Atomickitten99 from United States
I’m enjoying the guest interviews. They are packed full of great nuggets! Thank you.
- Unique - Engaging - BoldJanuary 2, 2021 by Paul D Johnson from United States
As host of interveiw based The God Zone Show podcast I fournd Mario's show uniquely valuable in providing inpriation and engouragment for my work.
- Fun, insightful, and quality productionDecember 23, 2020 by koltrass from United States
Mario brings in top-notch guests for engaging conversations on a variety of topics. Moreover, his attention to technical (e.g. audio, editing) quality is obvious and makes a difference. Listen to be entertained and enlightened!
- Inspiring interviews to take the next step!December 12, 2020 by BillableWithBaby from United States
Inspiring interviews with interesting entrepreneurs inform and motivate you to take things to the next level. Always good things to learn and implement. Thank you Mario!
- Pure value, I love itDecember 4, 2020 by Jdoggg222 from United States
Mario has a way of asking the questions I am wondering as the guest is speaking. He seems to intentionally ask the questions that most benefit you as a listener. Great podcast!
- Loved the Craig Handley EpisodeNovember 13, 2020 by MHillfan from United States
Mario’s energy is infectious and Craig Handley is a character and some. But really every episode brings out the uniqueness of each guest. This pod has become one of my must listens›
- Inspiring. Informative.November 6, 2020 by SunDevil from United States
Mario is incredibly inspiring and does something few other podcast hosts can manage to do… allow his guests to actuall talk at length and answer his questions. He offers great information and I really appreciate that he is invested in what his guests have to offer as well. Other podcasts come across as an ego stroke for the host, but this podcast is truly here to help guests share their stories as well to the benefit of the listener. Worth subscribing.
- Game changerOctober 30, 2020 by Player's Handbook from United States
This podcast is informative and inspiring. I love it!
- If you are a wanna be entrepreneur look no further!October 23, 2020 by Elisa Di Napoli from United Kingdom
Great podcast full of interesting insights. The host is engaging and thoughtful and I can say I have enjoyed listening to each episode!
- Amazing Interviews not to miss!!!October 16, 2020 by Jbower1282 from United States
Consistantly uniques interviews or amazing people really making it happen.
- Mario is a great host with great questions!October 16, 2020 by alexdesigns from United States
Take a few minutes out of your day to listen to Mario. He is a super smart guy and I love the questions he asks his guests.
- A great podcast for dreamers and do-ers!October 16, 2020 by Chiquita2727 from United States
Lots of great information and inspiration for anyone who wants to turn dreams into reality. Mario brings a lot of spot-on information to this podcast.
- Great ShowOctober 9, 2020 by Palminchen from London from United Kingdom
Love the broad selection of topics for inner
- Amazing inspirational storiesOctober 9, 2020 by Nicholas Lee 18 from United Kingdom
This podcast is so good. The stories from the people sharing their stories about their struggles in life and how they overcame these struggles is just inspirational and helped me push harder when things get tough. Keep up the good work with these amazing interviews Mario.
- FantasticOctober 9, 2020 by sttoggyigctdrvy from United States
Mario goes above & beyond on his show. Lots of great information for his listeners!
- Top LearningOctober 2, 2020 by BLNT PPTT from Hungary
Love hearing these great interviews with a great host. Keep up the good work!
- Mario inspires!September 18, 2020 by CHRISTOPH - HABITFREAK from United States
These interviews are fantastic. Mario inspires with great questions that draw out great answers from his guests!
- Expert authority!September 18, 2020 by Tara Williams Phone from United States
Mario shares some amazing people on this podcast and they have some gold to share!
- Great show!September 10, 2020 by Karen @ Interview Valet from United States
Mario is an awesome podcast host! I love the FB Live interviews and the opportunity for listeners to engage in real time. The audio and video quality is spot on every time. Be sure to subscribe so you don't miss anything! You won't be sorry.
- A Podcasters Inspiration!August 14, 2020 by JamieKullman from United States
Mario has so much insight and delivers such incredible value through his show. I just started listening, but I've already learned so much from him and his wonderful interviews. Keep up the awesome work!!
- Quality professionalismAugust 6, 2020 by VirtForce from United States
I can’t say enough about how pristine and professional Mario is in his interviews. He truly wants his guests to have the best experience and recording possible. And not to mention he is fun and knows how to put people at ease in front of the camera.
- How to conquer your limiting beliefsJuly 31, 2020 by Dave4syth from United States
Listen to episode 103 an dlearn how to overcome your limiting beliefs. Great advice.
- I can’t believe how much I learned in just one episodeJuly 29, 2020 by AwesomeMontana from United States
Mario is knowledgeable, curious and able to bring great guests that deliver value that every business needs to understand! Outstanding podcast!
- Great content!July 15, 2020 by Cory Lee Leadership from United States
Mario does a great job of providing relevant information and bringing on guests to share their expertise in a variety of fields. Highly recommend his podcast!
- Fascinating interviewsJuly 10, 2020 by Bill Ringle from United States
Mario brings on accomplished guests and draws out their expertise and stories in a way that leaves me on the edge of my seat. Keep up the great work, Mario!
- Love It!June 26, 2020 by Laura Moreno Cabanillas from India
Loving this podcasts, an entrepreneur I really appreciate the energy and passion being shared to help us grow our business. Keep up the great work.
- Boost my Amazon sales!June 19, 2020 by SurvivalDad from United States
I tap Amazon as one of my sales channels and your interview with John Ghiorso was an eye-opener. Ignore at your own peril!
- Love It!June 16, 2020 by LauraMore from United States
I loved the Memorial Day episode, Mario! Thanks so much for creating this awesome podcast!
- Flawless interview styleMay 29, 2020 by GninraeL14 from United States
Mario makes everyone appear even more interesting to me. Great format and style!
- Come here for valueMay 29, 2020 by Joshua User 202! from Canada
Really appreciated this podcast for the raw, genuine interviews. Love it!
- Crisp and interesting interviewsMay 22, 2020 by Joel Goobich from United States
As someone who created one of the first podcasts dedicated to video marketing, I was very impressed by your recent episode about using video. Your interview style is crisp and interesting
- If you are in business, this podcast needs to be on your playlist.May 22, 2020 by Macstephen1 from United States
Mario has a great conversational style that helps his guests shine. This show is a must if you have an entrepreneurial spirit. It provides thought provoking content that will help any businessperson in their quest for success.
- New Subscriber here and on your YouTube ChannelMay 15, 2020 by Angela Brown Oberer from United States
Wow Mario you have a real knack for interviewing. You ask great questions and have a fun way of keeping the conversations lively and interesting. After listening to your episode with Owen Video I subscribed to your podcast and then I hunted you down on YouTube. High Five and great job!
- Very Professional & Engaging Show!May 15, 2020 by Mitche Graf from United States
Mario is extremely engaging and can hold your attention, and is a great interviewer! He has some great guests that really get into the details of running a successful business. Keep up the great work Mario!
- Great ContentMay 10, 2020 by Pilar S. from United States
Excellent! LOTS of advice from experts. The most recent episode talks about speaking–a must-listen for anyone who presents or is thinking about presenting.
- Great content!May 1, 2020 by @Mentally_Strong from United States
I really enjoy your podcast each time I listen. The content helps any entreprenur level up with they do. Keep it up and thanks for each episode.
- Professional and InformativeMay 1, 2020 by Bruce at Mindfulness Mode from Canada
Mario Fachini is an excellent interviewer and has terrific guests on the show. I highly recommend this podcast.
- Great PodcastMay 1, 2020 by Amber Fuhriman from United States
I love the topic of this podcast. The episode with Tod Lindsay is super super helpful!!
- Great find!May 1, 2020 by Reed Stiles from United States
Great message and content. Stumbled upon this due to the cool logo, stayed for the content.
- Great show and great host!May 1, 2020 by Laurapowers44 from United States
Love what Mario offers! So glad he is doing his show and providing all this helpful info! Keep them coming!
- Walks the walkMay 1, 2020 by Me15463 from United States
Mario encapsulates everything he talks about on the show. Be sure to tune in to this!
- Honest and authenticApril 17, 2020 by Deano3622 from United Kingdom
Wow, just come across this podcast. Mario is such an awesome guy. He comes across so honest and genuine. Loved the content. I honestly don’t know where you find the time?! Keep it up Mario, love how honest and real you are!
- Great and insightful!March 7, 2020 by Karty12345 from Australia
I really enjoyed this podcast, so much relevant content. Thank you!
- So much Value..!February 28, 2020 by Alex Dali Rizo from United States
Great content, I really recommend this to any Entrepreneur looking to excel in their path, Mario brings topic experts to teach and inspire your day
- Inspirational Intentional InformationFebruary 28, 2020 by 10Kforte from United States
This podcast shares the stories from people that are doing whatever it takes to rise up and help others along the way. “What Are You Made Of” is one of the many messages shared on the podcast. There are so many takeaways that are applicable to anyone. I really enjoyed listening.
- Wow!February 25, 2020 by Tyscoaching from Australia
Just listened to the 'rescue site AED Program' episode! If you love epic stories and inspirational people, this is the podcast for you!
- Motivation on TapFebruary 7, 2020 by AnthonyPGarcia from United States
Mario brings on some of the most impactful entrepreneurs to hear from. He dives into the key performance factors of their business. He extracts information very well and keeps the show flowing very smoothly. Definitely a show to subscribe to!
- Starting a MovementFebruary 7, 2020 by JustMe2say from United States
There are many areas of business and entrepreneurs have an opporunity to gain some insight with this podcast. Excellent interviews!
- Great Podcast For Entrepreneurs!February 7, 2020 by The Big Game Hunter from United States
Full of knowledgeable guests and useful information that will help you accomplish your goals in business and in life!
- Mario Truly Care About His GuestsFebruary 7, 2020 by Podcast Junkies from United States
Having met Mario and spent time with him at Podfest I can truly say that he is passionate about his show. He’s genuine and that clearly comes through in his own story and what he brings to every interview.
- Put your thinking cap on!January 27, 2020 by Cliff Duvernois from United States
This is probably one of the most information dense podcasts I’ve listened to in many moons. Each episode could easily be expanded out into 2 or 3 hours. Mario does a great job of asking the right questions to get his guests to reveal great tips, tricks and advice. Sure a lot of information can be applied to an entrepreneur but I found a lot of advice applicable to my personal life. This podcast is definitely worth my time to listen to and I’m looking forward to more episodes to come. Great job!
- Relavant for anyone!January 17, 2020 by HarloB from United States
I really enjoy Mario and his shows. The Stress and Anger in the Workplace episode was great because it cut to the chase of all the issues around this topic. Great interview!
- Mario nails it!January 17, 2020 by Mickiezada from United States
I've listened to Mario for a long time...his podcast is well produced, his guests are influencers and authentic authority, and chock full of insights and inspiration for entrepreneurs. Love it!
- Mario is the real dealJanuary 9, 2020 by jamesnewcomb.io from United States
I’ve known Mario personally and professionally for over a year now. He is genuinely interested in helping people succeed, and consistently over delivers in his interactions and valuable advice with fellow entrepreneurs, podcasters, what have you.In this era of showmen who “give value” only if they think they’ll get something in return, Mario stands out as a man among men. Listen to his show and learn what true leadership and value in the marketplace mean.
- Listening On My Entrepreneurial JourneyJanuary 3, 2020 by FromLisa2 from United States
I was surprised when I stumbled over the servant leadership that shows up in these episodes. It's collaborative. It's focused on relationships with clients versus transactions. I especially enjoyed the episode on getting clients without "selling" because it's more about genuine relationship building.
- A GiftDecember 25, 2019 by Lisa Vogt from United States
Mario uses all his talents, gifts and abilities to produce this life affirming show. It's incredible that we are able to grow our abilities and develop our talents and gifts just through subscribing and listening. Thank you Mario!
- This show is ON FIRE!December 14, 2019 by tibor.mindsethorizon from United States
Love your show Mario! Your niche is close to mine but I focus more on mindset and manifestation in a business setting. I tuned into episode #103 with Karen Brown which is dope! Keep up the great work!
- Entrepreneur Must ListenNovember 30, 2019 by HWoodwriter from United States
If you’re an entrepreneur this is a must listen show. So many inside tips and thought processes behind moving your business forward. Mario does a great job with the guests by asking the right questions at the right time. He and his guests give the information you need to grow your business and leadership skills.
- What a show!!October 26, 2019 by CWLuecke from United States
Man, do I love interviews with world-changers! Mario does an excellent job gathering the cream of the crop for his show and giving insightful interviews. Check it out!
- Loved it!October 25, 2019 by Seodrigo from United States
This interview was very enjoyable. Mario brought on a wise guest by the name of Michael Lauria. I loved the interview and Michael's perspective on the topic. He had wonderful insights and around min 31, he hit something very profound. Excited to share what I learned today with others. Way to go!
- Great listenOctober 25, 2019 by trinity3712 from United States
Good listen. Great range of guests and topics. Something here is you keep listening will help you in many areas of life and leadership b
- Great Knowledge!October 18, 2019 by Jon Vroman FRD from United States
Great show Mario! So much valuable information in one episode!
- Excellent show, very imformative!October 5, 2019 by Shaolin Soprano from United States
Mario loving the podcast bro, great content, immense value. Enjoying these interviews!!!
- Helpful Information!October 4, 2019 by The Medicare Nation from United States
Love the valuable information on these episodes! Lots of tips & tricks for every Entrepreneur to use. Kudos Mario!Diane Daniels Host of Medicare Nation
- Love Mario’s AttitudeSeptember 12, 2019 by marisaimon from United States
Mario’s heart shines through his interviews, making these fun and positive, and the people he brings on offer such a wealth of knowledge.
- Lots of Great Info!September 6, 2019 by DarlajPowell from United States
Mario provides lots of great info and advice in this 7 day a week show.
- Great Content!August 31, 2019 by LanceJohnson_ from United States
Mario does a great job of share valuable information that every entrepreneur could use and apply to their journey. Great work! 🙂
- Important information!August 31, 2019 by Allmenow from United States
Very engaging information. Mario draws out experiences and knowledge from his guests. Loved the show!
- Difference-MakerAugust 21, 2019 by Unlimited Beliefs from United States
Mario is a master at bringing out, shining a light on, and internalizing the difference-making mindset. His knowledge and experience and mission enable him to synthesize information into diamonds for all of us! What you want is accessible by taking in this show!
- Excellent InformationAugust 21, 2019 by Stallion golf from United States
Great advice and information with a wonderful blend of topics! Loved the episode with the british healthcare professional and the ideas shared on how to make the industry better.
- Motivating and valuable informationAugust 16, 2019 by Calvin Javier from United States
Great insight on mindset from business leaders and entrepreneurs making things happen. Definitely worth your attention. Will be listening and learning more!
- Good informationAugust 2, 2019 by FIRE NATION! from United States
Engaging interview with a british health pro, I was surprised to hear the similarties and the application she has for making healthcare better
- GreatnessAugust 2, 2019 by MiaSportFanatic from United States
Have had the chance to listen to one show so far but man, we should be paying for this information. Lots of greatness. Thanks for the heart to serve.
- Listen to the experts - and thrive!July 28, 2019 by The Marketing Book Podcast from United States
There's a lot of advice out there these days but, sadly, a lot (and I mean a LOT) of is from people with little to no expertise. That's not the case with this gem of a show. Listen to what the experts say and profit from the experience!
- Show is amazing!July 26, 2019 by BestMorningRoutineEver from United States
I love learning about mindset and how to master my thoughts. This show provide the tools!
- Great show!July 19, 2019 by Jefferson_79 from United States
Great information for all businesses.
- Good value!July 12, 2019 by Audrey purplele from United States
Great information that applies to any business! I really felt he provided value for my time.
- Interesting TopicJuly 6, 2019 by Real Estate Journeys Podcast from United States
Interesting topic. Great interviews. Keep up the hard work!
- Helpful Advice from ExpertsJune 14, 2019 by ichuck2 from United States
Mario talks to experts in a wide range of subject matters and asks good questions to pull out helpful advice.
- What a great show!June 14, 2019 by Christopher List from United States
Mario really brings out the best in his guests. The police dog trainer had such a great story. Can’t wait to hear more!
- Great!!!June 11, 2019 by tommye w-c from United States
Great podcast, awesome guests, incredible host!!!
- Fun & informativeJune 11, 2019 by Saoirse Sky from United States
Some people want something fun, others want something informative. This podcast gives you both!
- Great show!June 10, 2019 by CJThomas6 from United States
Very inspirational show! Appreciate the advice and thoughts shared by the host and his guests!
- Great podcastJune 10, 2019 by Rosie81200 from United States
Great podcast! Love hearing about the guests’ journeys and what they learned from them.
- Never Stop Learning!June 10, 2019 by Terri in Fairhope from United States
Tune in to this great podcast and host! You're probably really good at what you do (top of your game...an Expert Authority), but there is always more to learn...streamline processes and gain more freedom in your life. It's not always about the bottom line. This one is worth a listen!
- Amazing!June 10, 2019 by KatieHBrooks from United States
If you're looking for inspiration, tune in to listen to Mario and his top notch guests. I find that I am always much more motivated after listening to an episode of Expert Authority Effect!
- Wonderful show!June 10, 2019 by @IV-Heather Tieben from United States
Mario is a great host & puts on a wonderful show. The quality of his interview guests and entire production is impeccable, I couldn't recommend Expert Authority Effect more!
- You Will Not Be Disappointed!June 10, 2019 by Composer 1853 from United States
Mario does such a great job of engaging his guests from several different disciplines.
- The hardest working man in PodcastingJune 7, 2019 by EOFire.com from United States
Mario brings the HEAT with real energy and FIRE...don't miss the meteoric rise of this show!~ John Lee Dumas
- Great interviews and guests!May 31, 2019 by Mel Good Karma from United States
Thanks for hosting such great interview guests. Look forward to hearing more and kudos on so many a week and also videos!
- FantasticMay 31, 2019 by Jason A. Duprat from United States
Awesome podcast, going to be adding this one to my list. Interesting topics with great interviews, good sound quality.
- Enjoying!May 31, 2019 by Slordan from United Kingdom
Enjoy listening to Mario and how he opens up the conversations to ensure it’s as relevant to us as listeners!
- Nice variety and interesting topicsMay 31, 2019 by emjgreen from United States
Love the variety of topics presented here on this show. Looking forward to listening to more of Mario's show.
- Great Content! Great Interviews!May 24, 2019 by No BS Mompreneur from United States
Wow! Really enjoy listening to all these fabulous expert authorities!! Lots of valuable take aways that I can implement into my life. I will continue to listen and share with others!! A+++
- A great addition to build authority and create an impactMay 24, 2019 by Cloris Kylie from United States
A great addition to build authority and create an impact. Also, a different twist on the topic. Engaging. 5 stars!
- Filled with motivation and ideasMay 20, 2019 by Thomas O'Grady, PhD from United States
Mario does a great job interviewing and pulling the stories behind people's stories or success. Good pleasant listen. If you are in a journey of your own, these episodes will give some things to bring into your on life.
- spartancvMay 17, 2019 by spartancv from United States
Great job following your passion, your purpose and creating this podcast to help serve others! Keep up the excellent work.
- This podcast is the bombMay 10, 2019 by Posturedoc from United States
Mario always crushed it, and this podcast is another example of his amazing insights and knowledge!! Great work.
- Wow - love the video show.May 4, 2019 by Thehighenergygirl from United States
Thank you for the encouragement and tips on how to succeed on video and the repurposing idea.
- Motivating and Inspiring!May 4, 2019 by KatyJoyWells from United States
Mario brings such enthusiasm to his shows and his content is fantastic. I’m always learning new things to implement or new ways to grow, thanks Mario!
- What a great show!April 29, 2019 by Gene_HPLN from United States
Awesome podcast! Mario brings great topic, great guests, and it is very easy to listen to. I definitely recommend for anybody interested in business success!
- It's greatApril 10, 2019 by Ian Ryan from United States
Just had a chance to check out your most recent episode appreciate the great insight!Great delivery from the host & can’t wait to dig into future content.
- Love it!April 6, 2019 by Brendan @ Entrepreneurs&Coffee from United States
I love that this interview podcast doesn't feature the same old folks that everybody has on their show. Keep it up, Mario!
- Amazing!!!!March 15, 2019 by Lindsey Russo from United States
This show is so impactful! Hearing from the experts and how they take authority in their space is so amazing. Looking forward to more episodes!
- Learned what I didin't even know I neededMarch 15, 2019 by Camilla-Jean from United States
Great info. I love the Q episode because I get just quic interst snippets that may get me thinking about where my business might go.
- Fabulous Interviews!March 1, 2019 by Life&RelationshipCoach from United States
Mario does a fantastic job interviewing really interesting and successful business people who explain how they got to where they are - tips you won't want to miss when your trying to grow your business! Keep up the great work Mario! Coach Riana Milne
- A+ ShowMarch 1, 2019 by Gisele_Oliveira from United States
I love this show. It's so entertaining and I learn a lot from the interviews. I highly recommend this show if you want to level up his game as an authority.
- Inspiration, transformation, success stories!February 23, 2019 by Chabo101 from United States
The title of this review should just be enough but it is just more than that. Its life lessons, its listening to personal struggles and how they over came those struggles. Love to hear from people that change the world through their struggle and the lessons that i learn from them are just more than amazing. I love this.
- Great interviews!February 22, 2019 by AlyciaDarby.com PodcastManager from United States
These interviews are well done and his guests are prepared to give really specific insights and stratagies... great podcast, Mario!!
- Inspiring story of courageFebruary 16, 2019 by StrongHeart<3 from United States
I love that she found gratitude in her circumstances. lorie is an inspiration
- Powerful!February 15, 2019 by The Food Heals Podcast from United States
Mario's interviews cover a variety of topics and provide great value in all areas of your life! Episode 15 discusses how change is temporary and transformation is permanent which was really powerful for me. I love this message! Thank you!
- Great content!February 15, 2019 by Blakeob85 from United States
Great answers to common questions many entrepreneurs have! Thanks Mario for sharing your and your guests' insight!
- Real Actionable Tactics!February 9, 2019 by MattBMaverick from United States
What I like about Mario's podcast is that he pulls out actionable tactics from his guests that we, the listeners, can actually use. Great show!
- Great Listen!February 8, 2019 by Real Estate Investor from United States
Mario and his guests provide useful techniques to succeed in any business venture. The interview style promotes learning through real life examples of his guests. Great listen!
- Great interviews!February 8, 2019 by Matt B 1818 from United States
Love hearing these interviews and learning from people who are top in their industry. Mario is a great host and is not afraid to share his emotion!
- Love itFebruary 1, 2019 by Duffash from United States
I love hearing interviews of successful business women and taking away what I can learn from their journey. Mario is a great host! I have enjoyed what I have learned so far. Congrats on the launch of your new podcast!
- Strong, professional, enthusiastic!February 1, 2019 by pm legs from Canada
If you're looking for an interviewer who's going to take you to investigative places to help you be your best you, through your professional life, you'll love listening to Mario!
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- We are the stories we tell ourselves.
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[27:15] The deepest principle of human nature is the craving for appreciation.
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Mario Fachini [1:17]
Here she is. Ladies and gentlemen, Mitzi Perdue. Mitzi, how are you feeling today?
Mitzi Perdue [1:23]
Stunned, shocked. humbled. Wow. Thank you.
Mario Fachini [1:28]
Mitzi Perdue [1:30]
I mean, I’ve never seen anything like that before. But…
Mario Fachini [1:36]
So you like that?
Mitzi Perdue [1:38]
How about, well, it’s a little embarrassing to say how much I loved it. But I loved it. I mean, I’ll share something with you. I’m 79. And watching that makes me think, yeah, maybe it’s all worth it.
Mario Fachini [1:53]
It is that you have a heart of gold. And I know what you’re trying to do, and all the people you’re trying to help. So I really appreciate that. And don’t ever back down from anything you’re doing. Like I said, prior to this, if there’s anyone I can introduce you to. You’re doing the right thing and for the right reason. So it’s an honor and privilege for me to have you here today.
Mitzi Perdue [2:19]
I feel so honored and privileged. I don’t know what to do with myself, but we’ll soldier on.
Mario Fachini [2:26]
So I want to ask you about the uniqueness of your background. Your father started Sheraton hotels, you were married to Frank with Perdue Chicken. Tell me about that. Let’s start back when you were a young girl, what was it like just growing up in that type of family and environment where you have a standard of excellence, and you get into doors that most people don’t get into?
Mitzi Perdue [2:53]
Well, first of all, it was fabulous, because both father and mother were very big believers in family life. And my father used to put enormous amounts of effort into making sure that we children learned values, and that we learned what my mother used to call recipes for living. And just as an example of that, father, he was a captain of industry, he employed 20,000 people. But even so, he would spend every Sunday, there would be what we call family hour. And he would spend it in one way or another, like educating us, it might be something as simple as explaining stocks and bonds, or if he was interested in astronomy had told us his latest enthusiasm about that. We had something called a family band where there were five siblings, and mother and father would all play something, and this would happen every Sunday. So he put a huge amount of effort into what he called the next generation.
Mario Fachini [3:55]
I want to ask you about that, because you’re just so nonchalantly, he taught us something simple, like stocks and bonds and astronomy. I don’t think those are pretty simple subjects. But I see why it’s important to start at a young age. And I’m glad he did. But would you say that’s a pretty normal thing to learn?
Mitzi Perdue [4:19]
Of course, there’s a question of how deep you get into it. But he did want us to be as educated as possible. And one of the things that is perhaps more accessible to everybody is to tell stories about his parents, or his grandparents. And these were just so important because there’s research. There’s a woman named Robyn Fivush I totally admire from Emory University of Georgia, and we’re talking about the state of Georgia. She studies what makes a family high functioning and by high functioning, yeah, the family. The kids are mentally and physically healthy, they like each other, they do well. school, they aren’t in trouble with the law, they don’t do drugs. So what makes a family high functioning, and her research at the family narratives laboratory says, know your family stories, that there’s just a perfect correlation between how well you know your family stories, which is what gives you your identity. Because after all, we are the stories we tell ourselves. She encourages families to do things together, whether meals together or trips together. So I admired my parents no end for they didn’t know that they were doing exactly the right thing. But according to modern research, they were.
Mario Fachini [5:43]
I’m so happy to hear that. And I don’t what age are you talking about specifically, are you talking like 7, 8, 9, 10 are in your teens?
Mitzi Perdue [5:52]
From me, it began when I barely walked out. The instrument I played in the family band was a recorder. And you can play one or two notes and sort of keep up with the others. But another thing that he did that I just loved, he did tell the family stories. And I’d love to share one about how Sheraton got started.
Mario Fachini [6:13]
Mitzi Perdue [6:15]
Thank you. Yes, as a little girl, I discovered that I could get parental attention by asking daddy stories. And so of course, I asked. I asked him all the questions about business that I could think of, because that was just a guaranteed way to get daddy to pay attention to me. Yeah, with five siblings. Everybody has their way of doing it. And mine was asking questions so daddy, what made you a success? And it was really clear to me that he was a success. Because yeah, I would always stay at presidential suites when we traveled to the 400 hotels. So if it’s a question that would make sense for a little girl to wonder. And one of the stories he told me was that whenever ever hit take over a new hotel. And he started Sheraton in the 1930s. So yeah, those really tough economic times. And a hotel would usually come up for sale, if it was teetering on the edge of bankruptcy. So the day he took possession of a hotel, he invited all the hotel workers next to 400 of them, that could be 800 of them. Because hotels have lots of employees you don’t see any way hidden by all of them into the hotel ballroom. And he knew ahead of time that those people were a really demoralized bunch of people. Because they’re thinking, if I get fired, it’s the breadline, because at the height of the depression, it’s hard for us to imagine, but 25% unemployment. Okay, so he knew that he’s facing, let’s say, 400 people, every one of them who’s probably just as uncomfortable and demoralized as could be. And he knew that. So the first thing he does when he’s standing up in front of his new employees is say, I want every one of you to keep your job. And the reason for that, it’s because you know your job better than anybody else in the world. And my job is to give you the resources and the encouragement to show the world just how good you are. And you’re going to see, in just a few months, this is going to be the most popular, the best served, the most financially sound Hotel in the city. And together, we’re going to be an example that even though times are tough, that things can turn around. It can imagine how an employee must feel with his welcome to his new job with or the new owner.
Mario Fachini [8:44]
Pretty darn good about themselves, I would imagine.
Mitzi Perdue [8:47]
But that’s not the end of his story. He told me, and we’re now getting to a part that’s more important than the words, although I think the words are certainly important. He said, yeah, that’s a good start to let everybody be assured that they’re going to keep their job. But the next part was the following day, the employees would see just hordes of plumbers and decorators. And oh, I didn’t know mechanics, whatever it takes to refurbish a hotel. But those people who were upgrading the hotel refurbishing that they didn’t go to the areas that the paying public would see now, they’re going exactly to the areas where the employees spend most of their time like the lockers, the showers, the employee dining rooms. So I asked him, why wouldn’t you be spending the first money in the places where you’re getting money back from the paying public? And he said words that really resonated with me to this day. He said people have a compulsion to live up to or down to your expectations and he wanted to show them that he really believed in them and how important they work.
Mario Fachini [10:05]
That’s a great Expert Authority Insight. Do you feel he carried that through with the family life as well as the employees?
Mitzi Perdue [10:14]
Yeah, I think in everything I ever saw him do. The idea that you act and show and demonstrate that you believe in people.
Mario Fachini [10:26]
That sounds fantastic.
Mitzi Perdue [10:29]
And there’s even a little bit more to that story. If you’ve got the patience for it.
Mario Fachini [10:32]
That’s not the patients, we got the time and I want to bring out the best for the expert authority world. I’m enjoying listening to myself, but I’m just thinking about that. Because for me, there’s been so many situations where it’s like, I’m trying to do the best. And this person here, that person here, whether it’s school, family, friends, relatives, when I was starting my business, people are just everyone’s got their own thoughts and everything. And it’s like, Wow, it would sure be nice to have it. Here’s the right way to do it unequivocally because I was taught, and I learned about stocks and bonds in my 12, 13, 14. Right after I started my first company, I would have loved to learn sooner, but it was, you do this, you see something working, but then everyone casts all this doubt, then it’s like, I don’t know, it is this flip flop for a while. And I’m glad you’re sharing this because while it may not be the norm, it should be the norm.
Mitzi Perdue [11:35]
Well, I think believing in people is a fantastic, untapped resource, because like, did you ever have a teacher say, I believe in you, and it just turned things around?
Mario Fachini [11:45]
Yes, some of them?
Mitzi Perdue [11:47]
Well, I think father’s somehow tapped into that. But that isn’t even the end of the story. Because, I was asking him, how can you just tell everybody that they could keep their job? You don’t want to make them earn it in some way? Why don’t you just give it away for free? And his answer was, that in his world, there were three ways of getting people to do what you want. And I’m sure there are billions of others in his world, and the first one is intimidation. He said I could have stood up there in front of everybody and said, shape up or you’re fired. He said, you can get people to do what you want with intimidation. But how about it short term and people do it grudgingly? And yet, basically, it’s a rotten way. Possibility number two, bribery. He said, I could have stood up there in front of them and said, do a super job. And there’s a race in it for you to do a super job, and there’s a bonus in it for you. He said the problem with bribery. Again, it’s just not a good way of getting people to do what you want. Because…
Mario Fachini [12:59]
The motivation may be misplaced.
Mitzi Perdue [13:02]
Yeah, it’s too transactional, they’re going to work on well, I guess you said it better than that I could the motivation gets misplaced. You work for the bribe rather than for something bigger. So what’s left if bribery and intimidation are what he recommended?
Mario Fachini [13:18]
A bigger cause?
Mitzi Perdue [13:20]
Yes, his term for it was inspiration. And yet, we’re right back to people living up to her down to your expectations. But if you inspire them, that they’re part of a team, that they’re building something that’s going to be valuable not just to themselves, but to their team, to the hotel, and eventually to the whole city. Then and the way he put it was the maid isn’t making beds. And the bartender isn’t just serving drinks. Now, they’re there together, building something wonderful and exciting. And you want to come to work because your work is meaningful. And oh, and which brings me to another phrase that I copied from him. And maybe it’s the most important thing that I can share with anybody. A leader’s job is to give people a better vision of themselves. Cool?
Mario Fachini [14:18]
I like it. Because most people don’t have that vision. I would say most people don’t have that vision for themselves and even the people who do, it’s a constant battle to go, you know, to stay in that vision because frankly, I could be wrong but it feels like the world is just out to just bash you down every chance you get even if you are winning.
Mitzi Perdue [14:41]
Okay, I couldn’t agree more. And yet, what I’ve just been describing from my father we know it worked. Because he started with no employees. He ended with 20,000 and he was famous for people staying with him for life and being motivated and willing to go the extra mile. So his approach of showing people that they were important to him and valuing them, it worked.
Mario Fachini [15:07]
It absolutely did.
Mitzi Perdue [15:11]
And he had a number of things that he taught me that might be useful. Like I mentioned , I often guess how he did it. And he had a variety of answers, because he wasn’t always just going to repeat the same story. But one of them was, what he was like, as a negotiator. And I get the impression, I’ve read books in negotiation, that you’ve really tried to bargain as hard as you can. But that wasn’t his approach. His business approach was, be so fair, that the other side feels good at the end of the negotiation. And that means seeing the other side. And his view was always leave something on the table, don’t go for the last penny. And I said, why not. And he said, the people who drive the hardest bargains, the people, well, his term for it was the sharks, they might make the most money on a particular deal. And in quite a few of his deals, he left a lot of money on the table. But he said the payoff for his approach was one of the things that made Sheraton Crowe was if a hotel, you know, a nice, important one came on the market. And typically it would come on the market because maybe the founder died, or the widow wants to sell it, you know, in one way or another. There’s probably somebody who’s not the original owner, who’s on the other side of the negotiation. And since he had a reputation, but she carefully nurtured of being somebody who was fair, he said, the big payoff for this is to always be offered the best deals first. Because if you’re a lawyer, and you’re representing, I’m being hypothetical, so I’ll get out. I mean, this is not a real case. But it’s a plausible case. An 80 year old woman, suddenly she’s inherited a hotel. Her kids don’t want anything to do with it. Her lawyer advises her to sell. And she says, okay, take care of it. And the lawyer hunts around and thinks, where am I going to get the best deal? Sheraton.
Mario Fachini [17:29]
I like that approach. Because, you know, you’re given me a reframe now, because a lot of what I’ve learned in the negotiation, and just heard is the typical, you want to be advantageous, and maybe not cutthroat, but just, you want in your favor. But if you’re tipping the scales, whether it’s 20%, or 40%, if that’s the difference from a shark or not. The net result, like you’re saying, is the other person may feel like they got, not the best deal, if you will.
Mitzi Perdue [18:03]
Yeah, so your reputation as a negotiator, since he was in it, for his entire life, it was really, really important to him to have a reputation of being he termed it fair. And he also said, leave things on the table, don’t go for the last penny. That, yeah, that’s a really long term strategy, short term, you’re not making the most. Long term, he got the best offers first.
Mario Fachini [18:31]
But if you’re thinking short term to begin with, I mean, you might kill it this year. But then you have to redo it next year, and the next year at some point. And I would say, in my experience, within about six to nine months of even if you were starting at ground zero, right now, today, in six to nine months, you have a pretty good foothold, no matter what the industry is, after a year, year and a half or two, you can be pretty well known in it. And after that, it’s like now, the reputation. I mean, it’s always important from day one, but you know, you have to build it up with your new whatever. But after that, I have clients that I’ve had over 10, 11 years. And I appreciate you sharing this, because I’ve always done my best to be fair as well. And you do want to make sure there’s enough profit leftover. But at the same point, I’ve always told everyone, I’m like, I’m not going anywhere. I’m always thinking five years, 5, 10 years down the road.
Mitzi Perdue [19:30]
And I predict great success for you because it’s that kind of long term thinking that does work.
Mario Fachini [19:37]
Well, I appreciate that. And I’ll definitely take it because my main motivation is, the more I can do and the more reach I have, the more people I can help with it. So thank you for sharing that with us. Because I think so many people are focused on the short game. They’re not thinking 2, 3, 5 years down the line. We just need to get by today. And I get it. I’ve been there. But at the same point, you’re just basically on a roller, not even a roller coaster. It’s a roller wheeler hamster.
Mitzi Perdue [20:07]
Mario Fachini [20:08]
Yeah, whatever you call it.
Mitzi Perdue [20:11]
I don’t want to imply that he was into giving away the store. I mean…
Mario Fachini [20:14]
No, no I didn’t get that one bit.
Mitzi Perdue [20:16]
Good, good. Good, because he was a shrewd, smart businessman. But he went from no hotels to 400.
Mario Fachini [20:23]
Yeah, but it sounds like he could have gotten the other 10 or 20, or 30%, better on the deal. He may have said, hey, this is good, and negotiated it to what’s fair and equitable. And for both parties. But clearly it worked. I mean, there’s no refuting it. And it’s why I love even reading books. And this is just a real treat and surreal for me, because I love going back 100, 150 years, going, what were they doing back then before all this fancy stuff came out? And it comes back to just, you’re treating people good, and you take care of them and you actually serve them and over deliver.
Mitzi Perdue [21:02]
Well, that makes me think of Frank Perdue, can we talk about my late husband?
Mario Fachini [21:06]
Can talk about whatever you want. And I’m excited to talk about Frank and also what you’re doing with all of this and your charity, win this fight.
Mitzi Perdue [21:15]
Okay, let’s go with Frank. Because you said a word that just resonated with me,
Mario Fachini [21:21]
And what’s that word?
Mitzi Perdue [21:23]
Mario Fachini [21:24]
Mitzi Perdue [21:26]
Because Frank, I mean, I’m going to give an example of where he literally served the people who work with him. Frank was, as far as, of course, I’ve got a somewhat narrow view on this. But he seemed to have a remarkable attitude, like my father’s work. I mean, all the things that I quoted from my father, I saw traces of that kind of thing in my late husband. But I’ll give you one thing that happened right after we married, we married in 1988. And we had a very short courtship. When we married, we knew each other in person, six weeks and three days. But that’s it, we wish I lived in California, he was in Maryland, and would talk on the phone every night for an hour or two for six months. So I will talk a lot about each other, even though our time in person was limited.
Mario Fachini [22:21]
I would imagine you could even learn more about someone because you’re going in depth, then you can actually have a conversation. Because, I know people that meet in person, they go on dates and everything. But if it’s only once a week, or once every few weeks for a couple of hours here and there. Then all the distractions of everything else. It’s like I think in some ways you could learn about someone better by talking on the phone or conversing.
Mitzi Perdue [22:47]
Goodbye, love talking about romance. So let’s quickly get into that and then get back to business. Yeah, I recommend that because we made a promise to each other, which we actually kept, which would tell the good, the bad and the ugly. And because we didn’t want to make a mistake. And when we actually got married, there was no adjustment period, because I really knew. I mean, he had been this honest, I think a person can be with me about his good points and his bad points. And I certainly tried to be the same with him. And it was a miracle. We just meshed. We had 17 years of joy, because we actually didn’t know each other really well by the time we married. But I wanted to share this story about Frank literally surfing when we just got back from our honeymoon. And it was I guess, in late August of 1988. We’re walking on a beach in Watch Hill, Rhode Island, and it’s really romantic. The beach is pretty much deserted. And now we’re carrying our sandals and surf crashing. And suddenly I look up at Frank and I say, Franklin, I think we should entertain every single person who works for the company. As you can imagine, that took him aback. And his answer was no, there’s 16,000 people who work for the company, this being 1988, yes, way too many. And I should have pretended that I didn’t quite process that he was saying no. And I said, no, I think we should have them 100 at a time. And he said no, that’s way too many. And I said, let’s start in six weeks. I bet we could put this together by the end of September. And you say no, that’s way too soon. And since I grew up in the hospitality industry, I think hospitality sells everything. I wanted to do this and initially, you know, he was sort of acting as if, who did I marry but what galaxy did she set down from? But as we kept talking, which we did, and we went round and round about this wacko idea of Mrs I could tell that he was starting to think maybe there’s something to it. And after we’ve talked, I don’t know, maybe half an hour. He said, you know what, I like it. And six weeks later, we did begin entertaining people 100 of the time, often three times a month for the next 17 years. And what made him change his mind is like my father, he wanted people to feel important. And you know, what better way to make people feel important, whether you’re a trucker, veterinarian, administrative assistant, anybody, everyone, then to come to the owners house and be entertained for dinner. And, to my mind, it was spectacularly successful, because people would tell me that it was one of the most meaningful events in their lives, to be entertained by Frank in his home. But now the serving part. We had our living room set up with a couple of end to end long buffet tables. And Frank Perdue would stand behind with the waiters. And Frank Perdue would wait on his employees. I mean, how many heads of Fortune 500 size companies would invite people into their home and be waiting for them? Cool.
Mario Fachini [26:26]
Probably not a ton and even fewer for the second part. And you did that for 17 years?
Mitzi Perdue [26:34]
We did. Well, actually a little less than 17 years.
Mario Fachini [26:37]
Mitzi Perdue [26:38]
Well, because by the time he was 85, there were health issues, and we couldn’t, but up until like, 83 or so yeah. And he loved it. Because he is really well, there’s a quote that expresses Frank’s feelings, and it comes from a psychologist from 120 years ago. The guy’s name was William James, I believe he was a Harvard Psychology professor. Don’t hold me to that, but I think so. But I do remember the quote very clearly, which is the deepest principle of human nature, is the craving for appreciation. And this was a way for Fred Perdue to show appreciation. And he was just masterful at it, because he had talked with every single person there. And if you were talking with you, you just felt enveloped by his total focus. I mean, you were the only person in the room for that moment, you were the most important person in the world to him at that moment. And I made it my business to notice what I’m about to describe. In almost any situation that I ever saw Frank Perdue, it would be 10% him talking, usually asking you questions, and 90% listening. So he made you feel really important. And then at the end of the evening, he had to stand up in front of 100 or so. You know, whatever branch of the company, maybe it’s the auditors maybe, maybe it’s the accountants or I don’t know the IT people. And he’d give them a state of how the company was doing. Yeah, what was going wonderfully? What was worrisome? Yeah, what would keep you up late at night? What would make you think, ah, it’s really going great. But he just told them honestly, as if he was addressing the board of directors. And then he takes questions. And they’re always loads and loads. And then at the very end was the part that for me was most meaningful. Frank would always say, but it would be in different words, but it would, it always boils down to this. I know the company wouldn’t be what it is today. without you. Thank you.
Mario Fachini [28:58]
So he really had that heart for people and really wanted to not just care for them and make sure they have a good work environment. But I mean, you were bringing them to your home.
Mitzi Perdue [29:09]
Absolutely. And I’ve been to funerals for the next of kin. I mean, this happened several times, where the next of kin would tell me that one of the most meaningful and important and memorable events of the deceased’s life was that he got to have dinner at the big boss’s home.
Mario Fachini [29:28]
Let me ask you, what was the most memorable party from all of those that you remember?
Mitzi Perdue [29:34]
Well, it’s memorable, almost in a humorous way. But okay, we all know that I grew up in the hospitality industry and that in my family, you win points for being warm and welcoming and making people feel good. That’s, yeah, that’s part of the family culture. Well, one day there was a party. And in this case, it was for the sanitation workers. That is in other words, the garbage collectors, the people who cleaned up so this was the sanitation workers were invited over for dinner. And I thought everything was going swimmingly. People were talking and they were, you know, there were adult beverages and people. So my purpose for them is to have fun, it’s not to be a stressful evening. But I noticed that there was a couple sort of off to the side, you know, like in a corner of the living room, away from her where everybody was sort of boisterously having fun. And it sort of looked, they weren’t exactly quarreling, but they were sure as heck discussing something. Well, as a hostess my spidey senses, yes something’s not right. What can I do about it?
Mario Fachini [30:46]
Did you ask them if you wanted to keep score?
Mitzi Perdue [30:50]
Mario Fachini [30:51]
Did you ask them if they would like you to keep score?
Mitzi Perdue [30:54]
Oh, that would have been great. But here’s what I did do. I asked as gently as I could. Yeah, kind of what was going on in here was what was coming on. They’re going on. This couple, one of them worked for the sanitation department of Perdue. And the guy worked for Salzburg, which is where the plant was or where our home was. Salisbury, Maryland. sanitation department. Yeah, so both members of the couple were in sanitation. But what was going wrong was the guy who worked for the city. He was unhappy, because he said, If I try to tell my colleagues that I had dinner at Frank Perdue’s house, never ever ever believe me. So I thought, oh, there’s a solution to that. And so I had a Polaroid camera. This being probably, I don’t know, 25 years ago. But for those who don’t remember Polaroids, these are cameras that will instantly develop where in 60 seconds, develop a picture and print it out. So I had a Polaroid camera nearby. And I walked over to Frank and he was surrounded by a whole group of people asking him questions. And I said, Frank, this is important. Leave them for the moment, and come over. And I explained the situation to him. Well, he posed with his arm around Russell. And I’m trying to show it. Yeah. He posts with his arm around Russell. And I took a picture. And then there’s a picture of Russell, the sanitation guy, and Frank Perdue with his arm around him. And then Frank autographs it. It was so great to have you over for dinner last night, Frank.
Mario Fachini [32:46]
So cool. I want to ask if you still have it. But a Polaroid would only be one shot? Do you have a copier scan somewhere?
Mitzi Perdue [32:59]
I wish I had me because that is one of my favorite moments. Because as you can guess, everybody was for everybody, that the couple just looked as happy as people could be. Because now nobody could make fun of him that he was lying. Now, here’s the proof.
Mario Fachini [33:15]
That is special. And not just because you were able to capture it, because it was real. I mean, he would have known, but the fact that he still wanted to do it because he could very easily, you know, I’m talking to someone you know, we’re having a party, this and that. But he recognized it for what it was.
Mitzi Perdue [33:34]
Frank totally got how important that was. I mean, because Frank has a lot of empathy. And I hope I’ve got some, and that situation is just so clear cut. Here’s the problem, and we can fix it.
Mario Fachini [33:45]
It’s one of the reasons I’ve always liked photography and videography, because one of my original company slogans was, we can’t change the past or predict the future. But we can capture the moment.
Mitzi Perdue [34:02]
Oh, wow. I love that. And by the way, photography is almost my favorite hobby and if not that it’s videography.
Mario Fachini [34:10]
Because I tell people all the time, you know, no matter what the holiday, what the occasion, you know, hey, I’m going on the trip. Awesome. Hope you have a fun time, safe travels, take lots of pictures and videos.
Mitzi Perdue [34:25]
I’m 79 and those photographs that I’ve collected from my life didn’t mean so much to me like my kids when they were little or happy times with Brad camp.
Mario Fachini [34:34]
You can’t buy those.
Mitzi Perdue [34:37]
Life is about memories and keeping them.
Mario Fachini [34:42]
Well I appreciate you for sharing that that is special. And I gotta be honest, I wish he was still around. It would sound like a lot of fun. The parties have done everything.
Mitzi Perdue [34:54]
But you know something else that he was. I don’t want to run out of time though. Could be time for another story. Or I can tell it next time.
Mario Fachini [35:03]
I have never done this live, but we got plenty of time.
Mitzi Perdue [35:10]
Mario Fachini [35:10]
I don’t think anyone even sees me look at the thing. We’re fine. We’re, yeah, we’re fine. Go please.
Mitzi Perdue [35:16]
Okay, but just other things that Frank would do. And what I’m going to describe now, it’s a question of do as I say, not as I do, because I’m going to describe something that I can’t do. But I watched him do this all the time. And it’s remembering names. And by the way, his son, Jim Perdue has the same gift. But one of the joys of my life was that I got to see Frank in action, he’d often allow me to accompany him when we would have planned visits. And I’m told that in some companies, it would be just almost unheard of, for the big boss to walk along like the assembly line. And talk with workers that generally that might be more typical. I mean, of course, there are exceptions to this. But it would be kind of more typical for a group, I don’t know, the executives, the C suite people to walk through the plant floor and not talk with anybody, but not Frank, the most amazing thing to me is we could be in a plant where there are 800 people, employees, or maybe even 1200. And the number of people he knew by name was just staggering. And he had introduced me to them, and it said, you know, I’d like you to meet Delsey. Or I’d like you to meet Antonio. Antonio’s son just got into a great college, or Delsey’s been with us for 13 years and never had a sick day. You’d not just know the names, but hit note things about them. And how does it feel? Oh, I have to add one other point to this, which is…
Mario Fachini [36:52]
Go for it.
Mitzi Perdue [36:53]
Well when we were walking through the plants, I mean, almost brought tears to my eyes, I’m so impressed by this. But Frank would never give the impression that I’m the big boss, the other person who’s known throughout the world, a fortune 500 size company. Never, never, never, never, never, not even once because what his real attitude was, we’re all part of the team. And I respect your work. And together, we’re producing something fabulous. But it wasn’t that he was better, it was that they were teammates. And so it was just the most natural thing in the world for him to talk with the people in the line. And then something else that he did that I just treasure. He would, you know, he could have eaten at the fanciest restaurants in the world continuously. But I’d say almost more often than not he’d eat in the or we would eat in the cafeterias, the plants, and Frank would simply invite people in either sit down next to there’s a table, it’s nearly full and hit just say is there room for one more? And just talk with people. And it asked how their job was going where they’ve been treated right? What problems are they up against? Or maybe the top sports but he was so I would describe him as an egalitarian. There was just nothing interesting about him.
Mario Fachini [38:20]
Super down to earth. It sounds like.
Mitzi Perdue [38:22]
Mario Fachini [38:25]
When he was touring the plants, would he always stick to the schedule? Or would when he got caught up talking to someone? Would he just let it go?
Mitzi Perdue [38:36]
Let it go. Frank had a different relationship with time from anybody I’ve ever known. Because when there was an appointment, he would be there for the second. So he was terribly conscious of time, in many cases, but going through a platinum if somebody had something to say, here, just stay and listen.
Mario Fachini [38:58]
Mitzi Perdue [38:59]
That’s why I was working in a plant.
Mario Fachini [39:01]
Oh, you dad, tell me about that.
Mitzi Perdue [39:03]
Well, one day, I was driving from Norfolk, Virginia, to Salisbury, Maryland. And they are acting that plant halfway between the two cities that I just described. I was hungry. And it’d be a couple of hours more before I’d be home. So I stopped off at the plant and ate in the cafeteria. Yeah, which I love doing because I mean plants. They can be kind of fun, and you meet really interesting people. But in this case, I was sitting beside an African American woman. And she was just really curious about my life and what life with Frank was like, and I looked her up, spilling the beans. But then I thought that she’s asked me all these personal questions. Turnabout is fair play, and I wanted to know about her life. I wanted them to know everything that I could find out because you don’t know this about me. But I’m a writer, I spent most of my life reading newspaper columns. So here I am talking with her and she’s describing her job. And her job is ship in the plap, it’s what I would have thought I would have predicted would be like a really boring job. It’s when there are chickens that are going to be cut up so that you get like drumsticks and breasts and so forth. You put them in shackles. And what that means is, they’re these. good at describing it, but you hang the chickens in these sort of, like, clips. And I was thinking about who I knew that she had been there for, like 10 or 12 years. And I wanted to find out if that job was boring. And I didn’t use those words, because that’s not a polite question to ask. But would you have the same curiosity? What’s it like?
Mario Fachini [41:00]
I hope you’d be interested to know.
Mitzi Perdue [41:02]
Yeah. And trust me, I didn’t say it was boring, but I sort of indirectly wanted to find out what it was like. And she said, I can’t describe it. I just can’t. But if you’d come to work with me for a day, then you’ll understand. And I said, Well, if you can arrange it, I’ll do it. And so the next week, she had talked with your supervisor, would talk to the plant manager, and probably got all the way up to Frank, I don’t know. But a week later, there I am, Mrs. Frank Perdue, putting on your the white smock and the hairnet and the bump cap in case you bump into something. And something else you have to do if you work in a plant, you have to take off all your jewelry and all your earrings, because you don’t want them to fall into food. So anyway, there I am. And I’m standing beside her trying to hang chickens. And I really suck at it. I couldn’t do it. I mean, I didn’t have the coordination. But I did discover what it was like, because I did spend eight hours there. And what I discovered was that actually, it wasn’t a bit boring. Well, first of all, because I was trying to do something that I never did get it right. And everybody was laughing at me. But that’s okay, because so what, but what I’ve learned is, here’s what we talked about. We talked about, let’s see what various movie stars we’re up to. We talked about television shows. We talked about what the grandchild was doing, it was just sort of endless. I’m not gonna say party. But the gossip session doesn’t sound quite right. But every moment, there was just talk, talk talk that was really interesting. So, I asked my new friend if this seems like a really, really compatible group. And she said, they put an enormous amount of effort into having people in groups who will like each other, will have sort of the same attitudes. And that’s one of the big efforts that you have in a plan to have people who are congenial working together. And I loved it. And I also joke a lot because it’s, I couldn’t get it right. And yeah, my chicken has gone by and somebody else has to hang it for me, which they did with no trouble at all. And finally, one guy, I couldn’t get one foot using both hands. And a guy I was standing beside was eventually sort of putting his chickens and my chickens. Yep. Just with incredible skills as if he was tossing them in like a basketball almost. And so I ended up with a lot of appreciation for the skill that these jobs have.
Mario Fachini [44:01]
Well, I can imagine because the, you know, the belts are going by I’m sure at a certain speed. And from a business standpoint, you don’t want it to be super slow. You want it to be productive, inefficient, but at the same time, it’s got to be enough where people can catch it. So I can imagine one.
Mitzi Perdue [44:21]
I heard from one person later that I didn’t need to feel bad that I was just absolutely flunking because he said they all went through it. It’s sort of like if I asked you to type on paper, and you’d never used a typewriter before, or a keyboard, it would take you a long time. But then once you’ve done it 500 times, it becomes really quite easy.
Mario Fachini [44:41]
Is that experience?
Mitzi Perdue [44:42]
Yeah, I mean, it’s just learned.
Mario Fachini [44:46]
It’s interesting you bring up typing because English is probably one of the biggest things I’ve overcome because I failed English seven times. So writing my first…
Mitzi Perdue [44:56]
I never guess.
Mario Fachini [44:57]
Well, thank you. My First Book was a real mountain to climb. And then the second one was easier. Third, fourth, fifth and it’s been a lot of fun doesn’t hurt that I’ve been helping people publish business books for the last nearly decade. But I, when you were saying that I was like, yeah, I’ve done real bad at a lot of stuff before too. But if you believe in it, even launching the show, I had no clue what I was doing. On the audio side, the video side is beyond confident in those of the saving grace. But I wanted to ask you about that, because I can’t imagine you being bad at it. Do you think it strictly was just because you’d only done it a few hours?
Mitzi Perdue [45:40]
Mario Fachini [45:41]
I mean, do you think three or five days later a week later, you would have had the flow of it down more?
Mitzi Perdue [45:46]
Yeah, I think I would have but then I’m dyslexic, and I reverse B’s and DS. And so I was a little bit of a disadvantage anyway. But somewhat…
Mario Fachini [45:57]
You went for it, though. You have no need to. But the fact that you had that insatiable curiosity to find out.
Mitzi Perdue [46:08]
At the end of it, I made friends, I liked every one of them. And I guess when you’re laughing, and I hope what I’m about to say about myself is true. I don’t have to be perfect. It doesn’t bother me a bit not to be and yet the laughing was good natured. So I thought it was bonding.
Mario Fachini [46:28]
I agree. So I have one more question regarding this. And then we’re gonna go to the wheel of whatever. And I want to ask you, the people you made friends with? Were they at your house before or after this? Because I’m sure they would have come to one of the party. Okay, after?
Mitzi Perdue [46:50]
Yeah, it would have been after because this was fairly early on.
Mario Fachini [46:53]
Okay. So how did that go? Were you guys talking about it? Was it the whole group when they were there? Because you’re saying groups of 100? Was it the core group that you had worked with?
Mitzi Perdue [47:03]
No, it would have been 100. And I would probably say something. I’m so happy to see you again. Remember that day. But then as hostess, I’m supposed to pay attention to everybody. I can’t just go off and huddle with…
Mario Fachini [47:16]
Mitzi Perdue [47:17]
My new best friends. But it was an odd experience. Because from being somebody yeah, we’re back in the factory, again, from being somebody hopelessly incompetent. Not. I mean, I was worth exactly what I was being paid, which is nothing. But then at the end of the eight hours, everybody wants to have a photograph taken with me. And I bet, actually, the whole plant, so I bet that there were two people. And so suddenly, you know, I get to be really important after being at the absolute bottom. It was a fun day.
Mario Fachini [47:51]
Turn that around. How many, that must have been a lot of Polaroids?
Mitzi Perdue [47:56]
Well, I guess I don’t know why they all had cameras. Maybe they knew I was coming. I don’t know. I never examined that.
Mario Fachini [48:03]
But have you ever seen the show undercover Millionaire? I’m an Undercover Boss.
Mitzi Perdue [48:09]
I’m deeply aware of it. And I’ve seen segments from it. But this wasn’t undercover. They knew.
Mario Fachini [48:15]
Oh yeah. It just reminds me a little bit of that, because I knew you did it. And you would flat out tell everyone and it came from your friend you met in the cafeteria. And that’s I think that would be interesting, too. I’ll do it. If you can set it up. I remember you saying that. And she has to ask her supervisor to do this. And I can imagine you and Frank having dinner just oh, yeah, by the way, you’re gonna be starting Monday or however that would have panned out. That’d be interesting.
Mitzi Perdue [48:45]
Absolutely loved it. I mean, because as I mentioned, he’s an egalitarian, no one person is more important than another person. And I think my impression was that he was deeply proud of me. I mean, I think I want a million quotes with my dear husband that I want it to.
Mario Fachini [49:01]
I can imagine. So here’s what we’re gonna do. Because of the expert authority world, we’re doing a two parter here, and I’m excited about this. I’m gonna do the wheel of whatever. And Mitzi I’m also telling you, because normally I do the wheel of whatever, we do a sponsorship and then we come back for the imperfect action round. And I’ve been debating should I ask you those now? No, I’m gonna save it for the end of the second half. So I’m gonna do the wheel of whatever and we’re gonna come back for the second half. And then we’ll finish the show normally. So here it is. So I was laughing earlier when you were talking about being on the hamster wheel because I’ll give you one hint what this thing is.
Mitzi Perdue [49:47]
Does it begin with h, and the next word is w. It is more like some kind of photography thing.
Mario Fachini [49:55]
No, it’s real. It’s in my hand. I just spun it.
Mitzi Perdue [49:58]
Okay, what is it?
Mario Fachini [50:00]
It’s a hamster wheel.
Mitzi Perdue [50:01]
Oh, it really is literally a hamster wheel.
Mario Fachini [50:03]
All right, it well, for Expert Authority World, it’s the wheel of whatever. Okay that I painted yellow and black. So what was your question? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Treasure Island, whoo. You’re on Treasure Island, you lose everything you have to start over again. You have $1,000, what would you do in the next 30 days to get it all back?
Mitzi Perdue [50:33]
I study. Oh, and let’s see, quoting my late father, he used to say money that you spend on education or tools is always wisely spent assuming use of the tools. So I’m on Treasure Island, I’ve got 1000 bucks and I can buy stuff. I mean, I think the first thing I would do would get some kind of iPad and get an internet connection and then I’d take courses right and left.
Mario Fachini [51:00]
Okay, so you’re saying education is the highest resource.
Mitzi Perdue [51:05]
Education coupled with tools because my tool is the iPad. And the education is the courses that I could take on.
Mario Fachini [51:12]
Okay. And I’m going to reiterate this because I don’t even think it made sense to me. And I don’t know why I called it Treasure Island. Because if you were stranded on an island, it sure as heck wouldn’t be treasure. You’re on an island, you get off the island, you have $1,000 to turn everything around.
Mitzi Perdue [51:30]
So I’ve got to give a different answer.
Mario Fachini [51:32]
No, no, no, you don’t need to. But when you said I’m on Treasure Island with $1,000. I’m like, Oh, yeah, yeah, that’s a stupid name. And there’s nothing to buy. So that’s on me. But that’s the whole point of this. This is a fun little area, but you’re saying education is the greatest resource?
Mitzi Perdue [51:48]
I do. I do. Yeah.
Mario Fachini [51:50]
Okay. Excellent. Well, I like it. I mean, I’m not disagreeing. But thank you.
Mitzi Perdue [51:57]
Can I turn it around? And is it illegal to ask you what you do?
Mario Fachini [52:01]
Holy smokes, no one’s ever done this. I’m still recording, still live streaming?
Mitzi Perdue [52:07]
Mario Fachini [52:09]
You can turn it around, we’ll throw an audible So here I’ll spin it again. What would be okay, tell me when to stop?
Mitzi Perdue [52:15]
Stop at Treasure Island.
Mario Fachini [52:18]
Is that the yellow or black one?
Mitzi Perdue [52:20]
Let’s go with black.
Mario Fachini [52:22]
Okay. Oh, it matches my hair. So what would I do?
Mitzi Perdue [52:27]
Mario Fachini [52:30]
1000. It’s so much easier to spend that thing and just ask.
Mitzi Perdue [52:37]
Well, you copy me.
Mario Fachini [52:38]
I appreciate this.
Mitzi Perdue [52:39]
Mario Fachini [52:41]
I would, I would think of all the people I’ve helped. And people I know are influencers and see what would be the need. We didn’t put a point in time in this. So this could be in the past, in the future, I would find a need, help people with it. And reach out to all the people I already know that I’ve done stuff with that I know could help expedite it. Because you could spend five or 10 years going from zero to where you’re at. But I think all the relational capital would expedite it tremendously. The 1000 would be towards if I could get internet and even without internet, if I could get my phone. It’s what I started with. I mean, all you need is the right people, the right hearts in the right connections, the rest just makes it you know, we’ll say if this will speed it up three to five years that might speed it up a couple of months.It’s just a convenience factor. But Sheraton hotels didn’t have internet, they clearly were successful.
Mitzi Perdue [53:59]
I mean, the title of his book was How $1,000 became 400 million
Mario Fachini [54:05]
That’s a great title. I mean, when I started off, I had barely anything, there’s many times like overdrafted stuff, just to get by another 30 days, you know, to that point with the training. And I remember when I took $20 over a decade ago and turned it into 20,000. So yeah, I believe in that education, for sure. But also the relationships. I could rebuild all of this in probably six months. What’s taken me the last two to three years.
Mitzi Perdue [54:37]
And that reminds me of something that Frank used to say, he is to quote the great Carnegie what was it’s not Dale? Carnegie, Andrew Carnegie, Andrew Carnegie used to say, Take away my pledge and leave the people and I could come back better than ever before. Take away my people and leave them plants and pretty soon grass will grow in the plant floors. Yeah. So Frank would have loved your answer. Well, I love it. Can we erase the tape? I want to take your answer because it’s a better one.
Mario Fachini [55:17]
Yeah, I don’t know if it’s better. I literally I’ve never asked anyone that. And normally I say who is someone famous? You’d like to do business with this and that? And I’m like, what do I ask you? Because you are someone famous. And you know, these people. And I’m like, she’s probably been working with them. 20 years. That’s not even a stretch. That’s like normal everyday for you. I’m like, Oh, I got this one.
Mitzi Perdue [55:44]
I love the question. I mean, it really made me think.
Mario Fachini [55:47]
Made me think too.
Mitzi Perdue [55:48]
Yeah, and I would like to revise and extend my remarks and say that it’s the relationships. But I still think that education and tools are…
Mario Fachini [55:58]
Mitzi Perdue [55:59]
I put some of the $1,000 into that.
Mario Fachini [56:03]
Yeah, I agree. And I forgot I forgot for a second. I’m hosting. I thought I thought it was tomorrow when I’m going to other shows. That was a lot of fun. Thank you for no, I’ve never asked that. And no one has ever done that to me. So I don’t know if I hope it’s a trend. But I enjoyed it for right now today.
Mitzi Perdue [56:23]
And I’m thinking bad Mitzi, bad guest.
Mario Fachini [56:25]
No, you’re you’re you’re a blast. So here’s what we’re gonna do. two parts, so. Oh, we still have plenty of time. Perfect. We are awesome. So here’s what we’re gonna do: Mitzi and the expert authority world. We’re going to thank the sponsor, and I’m going to come back, and we’re just going to roll into Part Two. Sounds good?
Mitzi Perdue [56:45]
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